Last Update: 6/19/2021
Welcome to the AtGames Legends Pinball (ALP) page here at Wagner’s TechTalk! I was able to secure an order from Sam’s Club for the ALP. The machine arrived on 3/26 and the following are my experiences. Much more content is planned, please check back often (See Change log).
I appreciate any support from the community to enhance this guide. Commenting on videos to improve the content, liking videos and subscribing to the YouTube channel all help tremendously in growing the content you’ll find here.
What is Legends Pinball?
As you may know, a full-size dedicated pinball machine can cost upwards of $5000. While they are typically beautifully designed, they are expensive, prone to repairs and take up quite a bit of room. However, the ALP is priced currently around the $750 (USD) range. That is, if you’re able to get one –they are in very high demand. Space is definitely a concern for me and why I’ve never owned a real pinball machine, as well as the cost. Not everyone has this problem, for space-constrained individuals having one (or more) real pinball machines may not be practical.
AtGames Legends Pinball (ALP) isn’t small but isn’t quite a full-size pinball machine either, slightly larger than 3/4 scale. It is a Virtual Pinball machine which uses a 32″ LCD display (running at 1080p), mounted vertically, to simulate an actual pinball machine. It also provides haptic feedback which mimics the vibrations you would feel from a real machine, for the most part. There is also a 15.6″ display for the back glass which contains the scoreboard, simulated DMD (Dot Matrix Display) and additional artwork. There is a lot to like with the ALP, such as the inclusion of a USB 3.0 (storage) + 2.0 port (OTG/Storage), Wi-Fi, Ethernet and Bluetooth which will allow you to add more games to the machine. There is an input for HDMI as well to connect other devices, such as a PC to allow playing tables that aren’t native to the machine. Essentially, this means you’ll be able to play hundreds or perhaps thousands of pinball tables on the ALP!
The hardware ships in two boxes. When I checked my order status through Sam’s Club/FedEx, I was concerned because the shipment only showed one box and the size/weight matched only the back glass box. I’m happy to report that both boxes arrived at the same time and in great condition. I talked to the carrier upon delivery and he said both boxes had the same tracking number. After opening the box and fully assembling the unit, I’m very impressed with the build quality. It feels solid, sturdy and looks absolutely beautiful in our game room.
The 22 Gottlieb tables that are pre-installed are good tables and they play well with some minor issues. I installed Vol 1-5 of the Zaccaria Pinball tables and these look/play better overall. For example, with the Zaccaria tables, the balls look like they are rolling across the table, the lighting effects (shadows) look more realistic and the game play seems more accurate than the pre-installed tables. In my opinion, if you get one of these machines, you should definitely try at least one Zaccaria volume pack and see it for yourself. Alternatively, you can watch the above video where I show a few Zaccaria tables towards the end of the game-play portion.
Given what I know now, would I buy the machine again? Yes, I definitely would! In the future I hope to see more tables, perhaps some from Zen Studios if AtGames is able to work out such an arrangement. I think if they were able to accomplish this, AtGames would make a massive splash in the consumer-oriented virtual pinball machine market. Titles such as Star Wars, Marvel and others would make the ALP an absolute no-brainer. Even with the tables currently available, it’s the best overall value for those who love pinball and don’t have the space/budget for an original pinball table or multiple competing options. After all, it’s expandable, with HDMI-In & OTG.
The information you see on this page is just a start, already working on ideas for future projects and video guides for the ALP. My goal is always to provide honest, informative and hopefully entertaining videos. I hope you enjoy what you find here. –Jon
AtGames News Updates
News from: 6/17/2021
Inventory for the Video Input Backglass (VIBS) for Legends Pinball is ahead of schedule and will be available on June 18, 2021, at 9AM PT/11AM CT/12PM ET. The purchase link will go live at that time. The VIBS will ship 5 – 7 days after receipt of payment and the link will remain active while supplies last.
News from: 5/15/2021
The following is the latest exciting news from AtGames. This section includes 10 new Magic Pixel/Zaccaria Deluxe Tables (animated characters), the VIBS (i.e. Rachael) board updates, ArcadeNet Quarterly Festivals which allow players to win prizes as well as firmware update info.
- Magic Pixel Deluxe Tables – In collaboration with Magic Pixel, AtGames has brought 10 new Zaccaria Deuluxe tables to the platform (check out my YT video of the game-play here). All run at 1080p 60fps on the ALP and were released on May 19th. They are part of the Zaccaria Deluxe Pinball Tables: Volume 5 and priced at $50 USD for all 10 tables. These tables look very impressive and are a high-end premium set of tables which feature animated characters and special 3D effects. These tables are what you might consider Fantasy Tables and may resemble the quality you might expect from other well-known pinball companies in the space (i.e. Zen Studios).
The new 10 deluxe tables include:
- Cine Star Deluxe – Movie-themed table.
- Red Show Deluxe – A music band-themed table.
- Spooky Deluxe – Adventure with classic monsters.
- Strike Deluxe – Knock down all the pins in a bowling-themed table.
- Universe Deluxe – Help Captain Zac save the cosmos.
- Pool Champion Deluxe – Pot all of the balls in this pool-themed table.
- House of Diamonds Deluxe – Put all your cards on the line.
- Robot Deluxe – Bring your mechanical creation to life.
- Combat Deluxe – Win the battle.
- Farfalla Deluxe – Find true love.
- VIBS (“Rachael”) Update – AtGames has created what is known as the Open and Connected Pinball initiative (or OCP). The goal is to allow users to connect their external PC to the ALP to play their Virtual Pinball Games on the ALP. This initiative will be in the form of a new board called the Video Input Backglass Switchboard (or VIBS). You may have heard of it previously by it’s codename the “Rachael” board. The VIBS package retails for $50 USD +$20 shipping/handling (US only). VIBS was released on May 19th and quickly sold out – more will be coming.
Package will include:
- VIBS Switchboard
- EDP cable
- Button + housing + microswitch for the button
- Wiring for the button
- ArcadeNet Quarterly Festivals – AtGames will be hosting events from May 14th-August 12th 2021 where device owners can win 120+ prizes (valued over $10,000 USD). For more information, please visit the ArcadeNet page here. The Calendar of events may be found here.
- Spring Sales – The following is a schedule for the Spring Sales Events:
- Wave 9 Express (W9E) Launch Wed 5/19 9am PT: Zaccaria and Gottlieb Sale: Wed 9am PT – Thur 9pm PT. Buy any pinball table, get core 50% off. Zaccaria Deluxe (Volume 5) for ALP launch Wed 5/19 9am PT; Rachael live on 5/19.
- Wave 10 Express (W10E) Launch Wed 5/26 9am PT: Zaccaria and Gottlieb Sale: Wed 9am PT – Thur 9pm PT. Buy any pinball table, get core 50% off. Stern (Steam version) Pinball Tables – Spring Sale on e-store 5/26. Zaccaria Deluxe (Volume 5) for Non-ALP launch 5/26 9am PT.
- Wave 11 Express (W11E) Launch Wed 6/2 9am PT: Zaccaria and Gottlieb Sale: Wed 9am PT – Thur 9pm PT. Buy any pinball table, get core 50% off. Stern (Steam version) Pinball Tables – Spring Sale on e-store 6/2. Zaccaria Deluxe (Volume 5) for ALP & Non-ALP launch 6/2 9am PT.
- New Firmware drop v5.33 (May 14, 2021) – See the details here. For those who use a PC connected to their ALP, this firmware should fix the frame skipping issue. However, I’m reading reports on the Official AtGames Pinball Fan Page that there is flipper input lag. There are some work-arounds that appear to work, so be sure to read up on that if you’ll be using a PC with your ALP.
Why the ALP?
The following are my reasons for picking the AtGames Legends Pinball over competing options or building my own (more on that below). This isn’t meant to be a complete list, just my thought-process on what made sense to me. I thought it might be helpful for anyone else considering this machine.
- Ability to Add More Games– There are options provided by vendors which have nice looking cabinets and game selections but limited expandability. I didn’t want a machine that was locked-in to 12 or so games. If I’m going to pay $500-700 USD for a machine, I wanted to have options for adding more games. It needs to have network connectivity (i.e. WiFi or Ethernet) for this and the ALP had it.
- Expandability – The ALP provides an HDMI input connector and a USB 3.0 & 2.0 port on the top panel (for OTG or On-The-Go / Storage). This allows you to connect other devices, such as PC’s or other such devices. This was a big selling point as it opens the doors to many more uses in the future.
- Back glass Display – Other options I was considering have artwork that looks nice on the back glass, but it’s static and won’t change from game-to-game. The ALP includes a 15.6″ LCD back glass, while it doesn’t fill the entire back glass, it does change from game-to-game and something I personally wanted in a vpin. A DMD (Dot-matrix display) option would also have been nice, but wasn’t a huge omission (perhaps a future mod?)
- Ease of use/setup – A couple years ago I set out to build my own vpin. I started with an older laptop that had a cracked display and a 48″ HD TV for the playfield. It was going fine, until I played the first game I had setup on it (KISS). The laptop GPU was severely underpowered, lots of frame skipping and shortly after my monitor bit the dust. I wasn’t going to spend another $1000 for a dedicated PC and monitor. I decided to wait until a viable commercial solution presented itself and was easy to use. I was up and running on the ALP within a few minutes of assembling the machine. That is exactly what I was looking for. I love to tinker and mod, but I also appreciate a smooth out-of-box experience.
- On-line Leaderboards – This was certainly not a primary reason for choosing this machine, but I was really excited to read that the ALP supports it. The ability to try to beat a high-score on any given table was a big nice-to-have feature and unique to this machine. Great that you can check the leaderboards directly on the ALP, on your phone or computer.
- Others – There were other reasons for picking this machine including ArcadeNet, CoinOps, BYOG and others. I was less interested in these features initially, but the more I learn/experiment the more I appreciate those features are available.
Specifications take from the Sam’s Club product page.
- Largest, most full-featured home virtual pinball machine in its class
- Designed for players of all ages, skill levels, and play preferences
- 22 licensed arcade pinball games built-in (expandable) Game List here.
- 32″ high-definition LCD playfield
- 15.6″ LCD backglass
- High-performance USB, WiFi, ethernet and Bluetooth support
- Real glass over embedded LCD playfield and LCD backglass
- Stereo speakers
- Real spring-loaded precision plunger
- 2 sets of arcade-quality flippers and nudge buttons
- Tactile feedback and accelerometers for real pinball feel
- Built-in D-pad for easy navigation
- Interchangeable control panel options for authentic vertical arcade gameplay
- Legends Arcade Platform: ArcadeNet®, BYOG™ (Bring Your Own Game), and APL™
The following are items I’ve added or will be adding to my ALP:
- Magnetic Cup Holder – This may not be perfect for every type of cup, but for a bottle of your favorite malt beverage, works just fine! It’s cheap and you can easily swap it from the left/right side of your pinball table or buy two and have one on each leg. I recommend leaving the magnet cover on, it helps slow any slipping as you insert your drink. Easy to setup and works just fine!
- 3D Printed Cup Holder – This worked great on the ALP! I did have to add two washers to make sure the screws were held securely to the unit. I simply 3D Printed the model from the link above, then inserted the screw through the washer and tightened both to the base of the unit. You’ll want to be careful here, screwing it in too tight on the leg can cause the cup holder to break so if you hear what sounds like plastic cracking, you’re good. Stop and move on to the next screw 🙂 If you don’t have a 3D Printer, you can buy the cup holder pre-printed from here. For more details on this Mod, check out the Show-Me Retro YouTube video for the 3D Printed Cupholder.
- Samsung MUF-256AB/AM FIT Plus 256GB – USB 3.1 Flash Drive for storing the additional games.
- Risers – I have received these but not tried them yet. Should allow increasing the height 3″ more.
- AtGames Pinball page – AtGames website
- AtGames official YouTube Channel – Many helpful videos and updates
- The Official AtGames Pinball Fan Page (Facebook)
- ArcadeNet Pinball Leaderboards – See who has the high-score on your favorite pinball table here.
- Legends Pinball Instruction Manual – If your manual was lost/missing, here’s a link for it.
- Sam’s Club product page
- Official Global Arcade Fan Page (Facebook)
More ALP Reviews
If you’re considering the AtGames Legends Pinball, always a good idea to get input from others. Here are some videos from fellow content creators that I recommend watching (don’t forget to subscribe to their channels) :
- AtGames Legends Pinball Machine Review! – CoolToy
- AtGames Legends Pinball Zaccaria Game Packs Review! Are They Worth It? – PDubs Arcade Loft
- AtGames Legends Pinball Machine Review – MichaleBtheGameGenie
- AtGames Legends Pinball Control Panel Review & Installation Tutorial! – PDubs Arcade Loft
- At Games Legends Pinball In-Depth Review – Kongs-R-Us Review
- Legends Pinball Machine Review- Awesome Virtual Pinball From At Games! – ETA PRIME
The following are tutorials from my favorite Legends Pinball content creators that I think you will find helpful and enjoy :
- CoinOpsX 5.0 Version 5 is Alive saUCEy Edition Tutorial for AtGames Legends Family of Products! – PDubs Arcade Loft
The assembly was very simple, here’s a quick-start guide:
- There are x2 screws needed for each leg. You’ll find them in a small box that is contained in the box for the back glass (along with a few additional screws, allen wrench, connector and power cable). The bag is labeled SA.
- I removed the main unit from the box, set it on top of the box (on the side) and installed 2 of the legs. I then flipped it over and installed the other two legs. Using the box made it easier for me, however make sure it’s well balanced and won’t fall off the box. Alternatively, set a blanket on the ground and place the unit on the blanket. The key here is you want to avoid contact with anything that may scratch/damage the unit during assembly.
- Use the included key to open the back glass (in box 1 of 2) and set it on top of the main unit (aligning the screw holes at the back). Install all x4 wing nut-screw to hold the back glass to the main unit. The bag is labeled SB.
- Use the same key to open the bottom section of the main unit. Locate the two loose cables (one for the speaker, the other a flat ribbon for the display). Attach both of these cables as shown in the video.
- I decided to power on the unit to make sure everything was working prior to re-attaching the back panels. Everything looked good and the back panels were then attached to both the base and the back glass assembly. Use the key to tighten them securely, start with the bottom main unit, then the back glass.
- Plug in the power supply to the back of the main assembly and flip the power switch on the front-bottom-right of the unit.
- Have fun!
Getting into the settings and making changes to the machine isn’t difficult. The menu system makes it pretty easy to navigate. However, there are times when it doesn’t seem as intuitive as you might expect. Below are some tips to help you get started.
- Exiting a Game / Viewing Leaderboards – When in-game, press the Menu button if you want to Quit the game or check the leader boards. Use the D-Pad to navigate to your selection and always press the Red (Rewind button) to select the option here. IMO, it’s counter intuitive to select with the Rewind instead of the green select button but that’s how it currently works.
- Getting Around – Use the D-Pad (4 way controller) on the bottom top panel to navigate the user interface. There are options at the very top as well as in the main display area. When you find the option/table/game/setting you want, press the Play (green) button to select the option.
- Multiplayer Games – After loading a table and prior to starting the game, you can toggle the number of players by pressing the red Rewind button on the front of the machine to toggle between 1-4 players. Once the number of players has been selected, press the green Play/Select button to start the game.
- Favorites List – You can create a favorites list of all your favorite pinball tables by first selecting the table (don’t launch it, just browse to the table and press the Play/Select button). On the bottom, you’ll see Favorites – press the Forward nudge (white up-arrow button) to toggle Add/Remove of the table to your favorites list. Go back to the main table selection and press the menu button. Using the D-Pad/Joystick move down to the Favorites option and press the Play/Select button. Now you’ll only see your favorite tables (if nothing is there, you didn’t add a table to the Favorites list). This will not work with BYOG/AddOn tables, but great for pinball tables.
- Return to All Games (from Favorites) – To return to the All Games list, press the menu, move the d-pad up one to All Games and press the Play/Select button. You’ll then see all tables again.
- How to Update the Firmware – On the top tab bar, go to Settings → Version (x.y.z) and press the Play/Select button. If no update exists, press the Play/Select Button to exit. Otherwise, select the Download option. Once complete, select the Update option (this may take ~10+ min. to apply the firmware update). The machine will restart and display the status on the backglass.
Bring your own Games (BYOG)
Legends Pinball: Vertical MAME Game Guide – detailed guide on how to set it up (companion video below).
The Legends Pinball will also allow adding your own classic vertical Arcade games to the machine using a USB Thumb Stick. That is, you can play games such as Pac-Man, Donkey Kong, Galaga, 1943 and thousands of others directly on your ALP! I’ve been testing this feature and it works well –for the most part. I’m finding that the included d-pad doesn’t always move the way it should. Sometimes when I press d-pad –> right, it doesn’t register. Doesn’t matter now, I’ve replaced it with the Arcade control panel (see above). However, if you notice the same please comment in the video above and let me know.
When generating the .UCE files for your games, you will be missing the samples. For some games like Donkey Kong (Mario walking), Galaga (explosion) and others this will be noticeable to those of us that grew up playing those arcade games. I’ve not yet been able to get the samples working. Comment in the video if if you know of a solution and I’ll add it to the guide.
The 22 built-in games are pretty good, really enjoying Haunted House and Black Hole. However, I must admit the Zaccaria tables are the best overall pinball experience. The game-play is more realistic with the Zaccaria tables vs. the included Gottlieb tables. I’m hopeful in the future that AtGames is able to improve on the built-in tables through a firmware update. See my recommendations here for more details.
After spending ~$700 USD on the machine, if you aren’t excited with the included tables, I recommend buying one Zaccaria volume to see what I mean (Volume #5 would be my first recommendation). I understand your hesitation, it’s another $50 but I personally feel it is money well-spent.
You have two options for redeeming the code after purchase, you can link it to your account or the machine itself. I decided to link it to my account should any future upgrades/repairs take place, the tables should remain available. When tied to the machine itself, if you upgrade/replace the main board or sell the machine the games go with it.
The sections below will discuss the included tables as well as the Zaccaria Volumes (or “Zac Paks”) in more detail.
The following 22 Gottlieb tables come pre-installed on your ALP, however you can add additional volumes here. On my cabinet, I opted for them all (it was inevitable). In total, there are now 137 tables on my machine (including all Gottlieb & Zaccaria tables)!
The following is a list of all the available Zaccaria Volumes. Each volume costs extra (~$50 USD), consists of 10-28 tables depending on the Volume you choose. They may also be picked up at a discount from time-to-time during NOD (New Owner’s Day event). All volumes play in stunning 1080p at 60fps. I highly recommend trying at least one volume (Volume #5 is my suggestion -if you’re undecided), these tables play great on the ALP!
|1||Aerobatics • Aerobatics Retro • Beast Master • Blackbelt • Blackbelt Retro • Blackbelt2018 • Caveman • Cine Star • Circus • Circus 2017 • Circus Retro • Clown • Clown 2019 • Clown Retro • Combat • Combat 2016 • Combat Retro • Devil Riders • Devil Riders 2019 • Devil Riders Retro • Earth Wind Fire • Earth Wind Fire 2017 • Earth Wind Fire Retro • Farfalla • Farfalla 2017 • Farfalla Retro (26 tables)|
|2||Fire Mountain • Fire Mountain 2019 • Fire Mountain Retro • Firefighter • Future World • Future World 2018 • Granada • Hot Wheels • Hot Wheels 2017 • Hot Wheels Retro • House of Diamonds • House of Diamonds 2017 • House of Diamonds Retro • Locomotion • Locomotion 2018 • Locomotion Retro • Lucky Fruit • Magic Castle • Magic Castle 2017 • Magic Castle Retro • Mexico ’86 • Mexico ’86 Retro • Moon Flight • Mystic Star • Mystic Star Retro • Zombies (26 tables)|
|3||Nautilus • Nautilus 2018 • Nautilus Retro • Pinball Champ • Pinball Champ ’82 • Pinball Champ 2018 • Pinball Champ Retro • Pool Champion • Pool Champion 2018 • Red Show • Robot • Robot 2018 • Robot Retro • Shooting the Rapids • Shooting the Rapids 2016 • Shooting the Rapids Retro • Soccer Kings • Soccer Kings Retro • Space Shuttle • Space Shuttle 2016 • Space Shuttle Retro • Speed King • Spooky • Spooky 2017 • Spooky Retro (25 tables)|
|4||Star God • Star God 2019 • Star God Retro • Star’s Phoenix • Star’s Phoenix 2018 • Strike • Supersonic • Supersonic Retro • The Aliens • The Hippie • The Mummy • Time Machine • Time Machine 2019 • Time Machine Retro • Top Hand • Tropical • Tropical 2019 • Universe • Universe Retro • Voyager • Winter Sports • Winter Sports 2018 • Wizard|
Wood’s Queen • Wood’s Queen 2019 • Zankor • Zankor 2017 • Zankor Retro (28 tables)
|5||Red Show Deluxe • Cine Star Deluxe • Spooky Deluxe • Strike Deluxe • Universe Deluxe • Pool Champion Deluxe • House of Diamonds Deluxe • Robot Deluxe • Combat Deluxe • Farfalla Deluxe (10 tables – Now Available!)|
How to Redeem a Code
Great, so you purchased a new table Volume and received an e-mail from AtGames with your code! You may be asking, now what? First, make sure you’re logged in to Arcadenet on the ALP and have a USB Stick installed on the far-left USB port on the top of the machine formatted using Flash Drive X (in System Settings). Then perform the following:
- On the top menu, move over to the AppStoreX.
- Press the HOME button (notice at the bottom of the main playfield it states “REDEEM A CODE”).
- Enter your code using the d-pad/joystick, it’s not case-sensitive so you can use upper or lowercase characters.
- You’ll be asked if you want to associate it to your Arcadenet account or the table. I recommend assigning it to your Arcadenet account, should you ever need to replace the mainboard on your cabinet you’ll be able to re-install the table(s) you purchased. Otherwise, the table purchases go with the main board.
- You’ll then be prompted to download the volume, once downloaded they will appear in your list of pinball tables.
ArcadeNet is a service provided by AtGames for your ALP that lets you stream Arcade games from a virtual server in the cloud down to your machine. With ArcadeNet, you can play games by attaching a USB controller or if you have the Arcade Control Panel you can use that too. For best results, you’ll want to connect an Ethernet cable to the back of your ALP instead of WiFi. While both will work, you’ll likely get much better performance over Ethernet.
Cloud Pinball is Virtual Pinball Games (Virtual Pinball X or “VPX” and Future Pinball) streamed over the internet to your ALP. Use the ALP flipper and nudge buttons and the down position on the d-pad (or Joystick) to launch the ball.
How to Play
Here’s how to play Cloud Pinball:
- Make sure you’re logged in to ArcadeNet.
- Press Down on the d-pad (or Joystick) to highlight one of the ArcadeNet titles.
- Press the Menu button.
- Use the d-pad/Joystick to select Cloud Pinball (on the left).
- Press the Menu button after selecting Cloud Pinball.
- Use the d-pad to select a Cloud Pinball Game and press Start.
- Have fun!
- Use a wired Ethernet connection.
- Once the game is started, you can adjust the performance settings. For example: Menu→Quality→Lowest→Menu) to start with for faster response time. The Quality setting can then be adjusted per latency / network environment.
1st Party Expansion
Below are some expansion options provided by AtGames that you may find useful for enhancing your ALP.
VIBS Board Installation
The VIBS (Video Input Backglass Switchboard – code name “Rachael”) board allows you to connect your VPX / Future Pinball or other Pinball engine-enabled external PC tables to the Legends Pinball. It allows utilizing the Legends Pinball large dual-screen display (including the back-glass) and pinball controls with your PC. With the addition of the VIBS, you can display relevant content on the back-glass LCD display by connecting an HDMI cable from the VIBS board to a secondary HDMI port on your PC.
To accomplish this, you’ll first need a few things:
- The AtGames Legends Pinball Machine
- The VIBS Board – These quickly sold out on May 19th, however more are on the way. Please check the AtGames News section for the latest updates.
*NOTE: When handling sensitive equipment, such as the VIBS board, do not touch other areas. Only touch the components for installation as instructed. Use special care when connecting / disconnecting the cables/connectors as to not damage them. To prevent electrostatic discharge (or ESD – zapping chips) when handling the PCB, I personally recommend touching the metal screw heads on the ALP before handling the board. This should discharge any static electricity built up.
I recommend downloading and printing this manual to follow along during the installation process. You’ll want to be very careful with the small black tabs on the VIBS board and EDP connectors. Don’t force them or they may break.
- Instruction Manual – The official Legends Pinball VIBS Instruction manual.
The following two videos will demonstrate the entire assembly process in detail. Please watch both videos. The Addendum has some important information that clarifies a few things from the first.
- Video Input Backglass Switchboard (VIBS) Installation
- Addendum – Video Input Backglass Switchboard (VIBS) Installation
- Flashing colors on the back-glass using a Radeon GPU connected to VIBS Board – I ran into this issue using a mini-PC with a Radeon Vega 10 Graphics card. The VIBS board worked fine, I could tell when the PC BIOS kicked-in the video was visible briefly until Windows 10 fully booted. At that point, the flashing colors would appear on the back-glass indicating no signal. Using any of the built-in HDMI Adapters on the PC to the VIBS board would not work for me. There are two options described below. The 1st worked for me, the 2nd did not (but has for others).
Option #1: USB 3.0 to (x2) HDMI Adapter:
- UNSTINCER USB 3.0 to Dual HDMI Adapter – This adapter has x2 HDMI ports, I used HDMI-A connected to the VIBS board. Should be possible to connect a small 2nd HDMI DMD if you want to use a 3rd monitor (I’ve tried the DMD to the back-glass only at this point).
- After connecting the USB 3.0→ HDMI Adapter (above) into an available USB port, I then connected the HDMI-A from the adapter to the VIBS HDMI backglass input – Windows recognized the new HDMI Adapter. I then positioned the new display (the backglass) to the right of the playfield display within Windows Display Settings (make sure display 1&2 are lined up perfectly, playfield on the left/backglass on the right). Next, I copied some backglass artwork to [Your Steam installation directory]\steamapps\common\Pinball FX3\data\steam (using instructions found here).
- Through some trial-error, these are the settings that worked for me within the Zen FX3 Cabinet mode options (backglass in Display Settings set to 1920×1080 scale 100%) :
- Dot matrix repositioning: On
- Dot matrix horizontal position = 2245
- Dot matrix vertical position = 720
- Dot matrix horizontal size = 1270
- Dot matrix vertical size = 340
- Backglass repositioning: On
- Backglass horizontal position = 1921
- Backglass vertical position = 0
- Backglass horizontal size = 1920
- Backglass vertical size = 1080
- Option #2 – HDMI Splitter and Dummy Adapter
Another option that has worked for others but, unfortunately, did not work for me:
- Install this HDMI Dummy plug into one port of an HDMI Splitter and the other split HDMI connection into the VIBS board.
- Connect the main HDMI Splitter input into an available HDMI Output on your PC.
- Within the Radeon software settings, set HDMI Link Assurance to Enabled.
*Special thanks to the following individuals for figuring out this solution: Derek S., Jay S. and Coin M. (image courtesy of Coin M.)
- How can I easily mount the VIBS PCB? For my installation I used some Adhesive Insulated Standoffs (not a perfect fit). I did use a pair of needle-nose plyers to get the standoffs through the PCB. Basically insert the plastic pieces through the via holes, remove the tape backing and gently press the PCB in the location for mounting. Keep in mind, before removing the backing make sure you have identified a spot that allows all EDP cables to connect with no stress on the cables/connectors.
- No display on the backglass – Ensure all cables are properly seated and the HDMI from the VIBS board is connected to an HDMI port on the PC. Also, make sure that you pressed the button connected to the VIBS PCB to toggle from the ALP to the VIBS HDMI Input.
- Replacement Ribbon Cable – This cable was recommended to a viewer on Facebook by Bee Kong (YouTube Kongs-R-Us). Looks like a good solution, if needed.
Arcade Control Panel Installation
I received the retail version of the Arcade Control Panel for the AtGames Legends Pinball and overall, I’m impressed. Aside from the bottom protective cover (not visible once installed), it is a quality product. The buttons are good, but my personal preference would to have them slightly concave (they are flat). The low-profile 8-way Joystick works well and the trackball is most impressive. Check out the video below if you’d like to see how to install it and some game play.
If you are aware of any community-created ALP Expansions not found on this page, please contact me. Very interested in keeping this page up-to-date with the latest information and available upgrades.
With the ALP, you can not only play a great selection of Pinball tables directly on the machine, but you can expand to a near-infinite number of games by connecting a PC to your ALP. The following guides will help you get started :
- ALP Initial PC Setup / Preparation – This Guide will assist you in setting up your PC to the ALP. There is also a Quick Setup Guide which references detailed information to assist in the setup.
- Zen Pinball FX3 Setup on the ALP– This Guide will help with the setup of Pinball FX3, JoyToKey and Cabinet mode (in FX3) on your ALP.
- VPX Installation via Baller Installer on the ALP – Coming next (in-process)
- Pinball Emporium Setup on the ALP – Coming soon? Comment in a video and let me know if interested.
If you are having issues with your ALP, see below for some possible solutions. If you don’t see your particular issue listed, please comment in one of my ALP videos and I’ll try to find a solution for you.
- Sound / Haptic Distortion – If you’re having audio / haptic distortion issues, here’s something you can try that may fix it. This tip comes from Show-Me Retro (be sure to like his video to say thanks) where he was able to resolve the majority of his issues with these simple steps:
- On the top tab go to Settings → Page 3 → Pinball Settings
- Set Master Volume to 40.
- Set FX Volume 25.
- Set Music Volume 3, this may not sound right, but it does work.
- Move Down to Reset All Tables to Default and click the button.
- When prompted if you’re sure, select Yes.
- All tables will be reset and the haptics set to very low/low. If it doesn’t work on the 1st try, power-cycle the machine.
- Set volume using the + / – (upper right of the machine) to 75 and then adjust to your preference.
- Problems with Steam recognizing your ALP as a Controller – I had this same problem. I initially tried an Amazon basic (powered) USB hub and this did not work. I then purchased the two items below, issue was resolved:
- Beelink GTR Mini PC won’t display to the VIBS/ALP Back-glass while in Windows – I tried this device and I don’t recommend it. There were a few issue:
- The GPU performance was not great with FX3 and notice screen tearing during transitions (launching the ball to game-play). FPS was definitely not at 60.
- The 2nd HDMI port connected to the VIBS board would show up on the initial boot of the PC, but once in Windows would show the multi-color sequencing indicating no-signal. Uninstalled drivers, re-installed the drivers and the same thing occurred. See here for a solution to this problem.
- CoinOpsX Exciters Too Loud – (from a WTT channel subscriber) when I launch the CoinOpsX app, the exciters turn way back up and vibrate through the roof. It is so powerful that it sounds like the tiny woofers on them are about to burst. I don’t want to damage my pinball machine, so I’m holding off playing CoinOpsX even with an external controller. I was wondering if you knew how to turn down, or disable/turn off the exciters altogether, when using the CoinOpsX app on the Legends Pinball?
- WTT Response: Had a few discussions regarding this issue, last discussion was that it appears to be a hardware issue with the Arcade Control Panel. If I receive any further updates, I’ll add them here.
Don’t see your issue here? Comment in one of my ALP videos and I’ll try to find a solution for you.
The ALP is great, but with a few minor modifications it could be even better! In the short time I’ve owned my Legends Pinball, AtGames has already improved x2 of the items below (marked out). They are actively improving their product and releasing periodic updates. The following are some recommendations for improvement that would make the ALP a better overall experience:
- Gottlieb tables forget the last player initials – The Zaccaria tables remember the previous initials at the end of a game, just requires 4 taps on the rewind button to enter the initials from the previous time initials were entered. On the Gottlieb tables, you have to scroll through and enter each time which is disappointing. Both sets of tables should work consistently.
- Gottlieb table scoreboards too small – Several of the Gottlieb tables have small scoreboards and plenty of artwork. I think better use of the space on the back glass would be great.
- Included tables should be improved – While the Gottlieb tables are good, they didn’t perform as well as the Zaccaria tables.
The ball image appears static(slightly improved in the 04/15/2021 update), the exciters/actuator timing is slightly off(fixed in the 04/15/2021 firmware) and the artwork/lighting effects don’t look quite as polished.
- Customer Requests – The following is based on feedback from this Reddit thread on what it is that reddit ALP customers want to see improved (I will be providing this feedback to AtGames):
- Inconsistent Selection – Reverse and play button uses make no sense to me. They need one button to be “select”. It is almost as if the play button is “select” sometimes and the rewind button is “select” other times. WTT comment: Fully agree with this, it’s unnecessarily confusing and keeps coming up.
- Ability to create custom/favorite folders – The ability to sort by table type. Like “retro” only… or better yet let us make folders to move tables where we want. WTT comment: This would definitely be a welcomed feature.
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- 2021-06-19 – Added Zen Pinball FX3 Setup for the ALP under PC-Based Pinball.
- 2021-06-16 – Additional updates / corrections. Beginning to fill-in the PC-Based expansion in more detail. Added news updates.
- 2021-05-29 – Added Table Code Redemption instructions. Added 1st Party Expansion section. Added start to ArcadeNet section. Added start to Cloud Pinball section. Added start to PC-based Pinball section. Adjusted some sections for a more logical flow.
- 2021-05-19 – In the Operation section, added how to add games to the Favorites list. Other updates relating to products released today.
- 2021-05-17 – A few corrections were made including: incorrect table count for Vol 5, missing “Deluxe” at the end of one of the game names, new page image, etc.
- 2021-05-15 – Added news updates from AtGames, added full game-list under the Zaccaria Volumes section, expanded troubleshooting section, various other edits/improvements.
- 2021-05-14 – Minor edits and missing information added.
- 2021-05-07 – Added the Arcade Control Panel section.
- 2021-04-19 – Added More ALP Reviews section; various updates.
- 2021-04-15 – Minor updates.
- 2021-04-14 – Added a detailed guide for setting up Vertical (MAME) Arcade Games here.
- 2021-04-13 – Start to the BYOG Section / minor updates.
- 2021-04-09 – Various updates.
- 2021-04-05 – Took a brief vacation with the family to Florida, back now and resuming work on the review video.
- 2021-03-30 – Added top high scores, my son LAN got a high score on Pool Champion 2018 (Remake). How many ways can I mis-spell Gottlieb (corrected).
- 2021-03-28 – Updated with an Issues Found section.
- 2021-03-27 – Updating many sections and adding more information that I’ve learned.
- 2021-03-26 – It has Arrived! It’s now fully assembled and I’ve added two Zaccaria Volumes. In my opinion, the Zaccari volumes play much better/nicer than the stock 22 games. More in my review video.
- 2021-03-25 – Added a 3D Printed cup holder.
- 2021-03-21 – Start to this page.